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Posted by Rick Zeman on 03-23-2004 07:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by magyart
Which models require a PCM change and is it covered by a warranty ? Yours is the first message I've read, regarding this. Please advise. Thanks.

From what I've read here, some dealers do it under warranty and others haven't. Mine will when it needs to be done.

I'm guessing, but I'm sure it affects all 2001-2003's and that the changes were rolled into 2004 and 2005's.

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Posted by mirt on 03-23-2004 09:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Rick Zeman
and that the changes were rolled into 2004 and 2005's.

Rick, do you know what the "changes" you are referring to are, specifically? Thanks

Posted by SBrody505 on 03-24-2004 05:34 AM:

Night and Day

That is the difference after killing 3 birds with one stone at my last service visit. That is...
1. The stall/low rpm fix
2. The transmission flush and reprogram
3. The sticky throttle
I actually feel like I have a new vehicle, and I can definately tell that it did not drive like this when it was new 2 1/2 years ago.
I want to recommend Holman Ford in Mt. Laurel New Jersey because they were nothing short of excellent, professional and friendly. I must have at least 6 Ford dealers that are near or nearer than this one, including the one I bought from, but I drive out of my way to go this place. I guess the best advice I can give everyone with these ailing Escape problems is to keep trying different dealers until you get the right one. I know that's hard for some people in rural areas but if it's really bothering you, try calling some and maybe arrange for a special road trip.
I had posted back in November 2002 when they replaced the torque converter due to the transmission shudder. Since the official fix was not released until around April 2003, I figured I would mention it to them at my last visit. The gentleman did not even question me and he took care of it. If anyone has any questions about my repairs or what's printed on the work order, I would be happy to respond. My repairs include the whole gamet of Escape problems.

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White 2001 XLT V6 4x4

Posted by greyboy on 03-24-2004 05:58 AM:

Re: Night and Day

quote:
Originally posted by SBrody505
If anyone has any questions about my repairs or what's printed on the work order, I would be happy to respond.

Respond me what's printed on the work order(s).

kyescaper@ky-escaper.com

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Posted by OToole on 03-24-2004 07:06 PM:

I take great offense to the people who say Escape owners with failed transmissions are trolling the internet stirring up trouble!!!! My tranny went out at 52,000 miles. Another lady I know had hers go out at 51,000 miles...our town has a population of 5,000 people!

This is NOT a coincidence, and yes, I have heard - even from the guy who rebuilt my transmission, that the CD 4E is FAULTY! We are probably going to be hearing from alot more people, as most of the '01 and '02 Escapes are finally nearing the 50,000 mile mark.

Posted by SBrody505 on 03-25-2004 04:41 AM:

Greyboy,
I sent you image files of the repair. If there are any other repairs besides the ones I sent you, just e-mail me. Just about everything that could go wrong with my escape has gone wrong, and I have all those repair orders as well.

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White 2001 XLT V6 4x4

Posted by greyboy on 03-25-2004 05:34 AM:

Thank You Drew !! I'm d-loading the file as we speak.

EDIT: I got the file as a .dat. I have no idea what to open it with. Little help?

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Posted by SBrody505 on 03-26-2004 04:05 AM:

Greyboy, I sent them again

I sent them to your other address. They are windows bitmap (.bmp) files. I'm not sure how you got .dat files. Anyway, you should be good now.

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White 2001 XLT V6 4x4

Posted by Simon on 03-28-2004 07:45 PM:

Flushed With MerconV

I haven't visited Escape-Central in a while. I thought I'd check
in to see if there are any more updates on the Shudder problem.
My '02 Escape transmission started to Shudder at about 15K miles. I took it in for the prescirbed flush/ reflash, and have had no problems since (that was 10K miles ago). My dealer flushed with MERCON V. The transmission is shifting better than it did when the truck was new. The dipstick say MERCON V.

Posted by 4x2 on 03-28-2004 08:54 PM:

Simon,

Yikes! Our CD4E trans was designed to use only Mercon ATF. Ya might wanto have your dealership redo the flush for free because they made a mistake. The long term durability of your trans is at stake. Don't let your dealership talk you out of it or "wall job" it.

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- Michelin LTX M/S
- Raybestos AT pads & rotors
- Monroe Sensa-Trac Shocks & Struts
- Mercon drain 'n fill every 10K

Posted by Simon on 04-14-2004 04:43 AM:

We'll See!

Actually, I did go back to the dealer with my concerns. The service writer and the transmission tech both assured me that my Escape was shipped from the factory with MERCON V. I showed them the Owners Manual (which say MERCON). They said the manual was incorrect and the dipstick was right (MERCON V).
I'm just going to let it ride for now.....since I'm likely to trade it in before anymore transmission problems develop, someone else will have to deal with it......but if I start having problems, it seems to me that I have a pretty good case for free warranty work even after the warranty expires....

Posted by 4x2 on 04-14-2004 05:52 AM:

Good luck!

Posted by magyart on 04-18-2004 04:37 AM:

Re: We'll See!

quote:
Originally posted by Simon
Actually, I did go back to the dealer with my concerns. The service writer and the transmission tech both assured me that my Escape was shipped from the factory with MERCON V. I showed them the Owners Manual (which say MERCON). They said the manual was incorrect and the dipstick was right (MERCON V).
I'm just going to let it ride for now.....since I'm likely to trade it in before anymore transmission problems develop, someone else will have to deal with it......but if I start having problems, it seems to me that I have a pretty good case for free warranty work even after the warranty expires....

Keep your documentation, if something goes wrong, they will never remember.

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Dark Shadow Gray Metallic
Bug Shield
Window Vents - smoke
Mud Flaps
Ford all weather floor mats - front
Advance Auto, rear floor mats
Added Fram Cabin Filter
New tranny @ 5,100 mi. / warranty
Magnefine Transmission Fluid Filter
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Posted by Rick Zeman on 04-18-2004 04:59 AM:

Re: We'll See!

quote:
Originally posted by Simon
Actually, I did go back to the dealer with my concerns. The service writer and the transmission tech both assured me that my Escape was shipped from the factory with MERCON V. I showed them the Owners Manual (which say MERCON). They said the manual was incorrect and the dipstick was right (MERCON V).
I'm just going to let it ride for now.....since I'm likely to trade it in before anymore transmission problems develop, someone else will have to deal with it......but if I start having problems, it seems to me that I have a pretty good case for free warranty work even after the warranty expires....

"If you knew we were wrong you shouldn't have waited so long...." "Why didn't you have the dealership verify it?" "Sorry, you're on your own...."

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